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Wednesday, June 29, 2005

Campus Abroad

US, UK, Singapore, Australia & NZ have been the usual places where Indians went for graduate studies. English is the medium of instruction in these countries and this would have been one of the reasons why Indian students opted for the above list of countries. Some students also went to Russia to study medicine. Last year, a distant cousin of mine decided to go to China to pursue MBBS. I don’t recollect the name of the university. He couldn’t get thru the merit category in Indian medical colleges (the usual 98 – 99% cut-off) and his parents weren’t willing to fork out the capitation fee (usually in the range of Rs. 25 lakhs for a medical seat). I understand that the classes will be taught in English and the cost is a fraction of what they would have paid in India (had they opted for the payment seat).

This is probably the first time I came across somebody who opted to pursue a degree in China. Is this a sign of things to come?

21 Comments:

  • i guess so....
    but what about the quality of education?
    even here, many engineering colleges have mushroomed...but what about the quality.....??

    By Blogger monu, at 2:05 PM  

  • You bet it is! This is just a lesson to these money-hungry, greedy slobs here who will now be forced to toe the line with what is reasonable, fair and just in providing education! Your cousin should be commended for his courage to venture out! 3 cheers to him! :)

    By Anonymous Ravi, at 2:05 PM  

  • But is it recognized all across-if yes then nothing like it-Toys le irundhu MBBS seat varaikkum Chinese affordabiltiy is rocking

    By Anonymous vasanthi, at 2:09 PM  

  • @Monu,
    I don't much about the quality of the degree....I hope my cousin has done some amount of research before deciding on this course.

    @Ravi,
    It is definitely a bold move.

    @Vasanthi,
    I share the concerns raised by you. I also don't know about the international recognition and the status of the placements.

    By Blogger Kaps, at 2:26 PM  

  • What about the recognition of chineses medical degree in India.I think there will be some exam here to allow the person to practise in India.Or is there more

    By Blogger Badri, at 2:36 PM  

  • Believe me, these chinkies are good at core subjects and they suffer only when it comes to english..

    Kaps cousin wud be a dude there with the kinda english we speak

    By Blogger ioiio, at 2:37 PM  

  • This whole "is it recognized" question is a pain. aparently NUS and NTU degrees are not recognized in India; who cares.

    Though in the case of medicine people better care, cos if you dont have a recognized degree you cannot persue masters in another country. Worst of all you cannot practise in another country if they dont recognize your masters. BTW Singapore and USA dont recognize any of the post graduate Indian medical degrees. They only recognize the MBBS.

    By Blogger nmk, at 2:43 PM  

  • @Badri,
    Good question! I don't know whether the degree is recognized in India

    @IOIIO,
    Don't underestimate their English.

    @NMK,
    S'pore PM is currently in India and both the countries are gonna sign a pact which recognizes degrees of the other country. With this, I guess NUS and NTU degrees might be recognized in India.

    By Blogger Kaps, at 2:49 PM  

  • This is the first time I am hearing something of this sort! Well, keeping aside the degree part of it ... in a place where the medium of communication is Chinese, I hope he has some company to just talk to! I hope he is able to enjoy his college years there.

    By Blogger G3, at 3:10 PM  

  • I dunno much about the degrees in china, but i can surely say that chinese as a language is gaining more importance than business french and german. One prof openly said in our class this, "Why do you guys waste time on a dead language like french. Go learn Chinese and Arabic". I think this shows the importance of the 'things to come'.

    By Anonymous Chandoo, at 3:12 PM  

  • i did read somewhere that china is investing a lot in education to attract foreign students...& this was atleast a yr back...but this is the first time i hear someone from india going there...i am sure they have better research facilities than india bcoz a lot of them go back to their country after their masters & all...

    By Blogger capriciously_me, at 3:43 PM  

  • Kaps,

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1132712.cms

    An article on TOI warning the Chinese MBBS. You may wanna check it out

    By Blogger Calvin, at 5:05 PM  

  • Sorry to scare you, but here is a more dangerous article...

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1149124.cms

    By Blogger DD, at 5:09 PM  

  • @Calvin & DD,

    Thanks for the articles. I'm not in touch with my second cousin and hence I don't know the real situation.

    By Blogger Kaps, at 5:16 PM  

  • @Gayathri,
    I doubt whether there are more Indian students there.

    @Chandoo,
    It definitely helps if one learns Mandarin. Chennai based Great lakes Institute of Management (GLIM) has made Mandarin as one of the core courses in their MBA program.

    @CM,
    I hv also read somewhere that China has better research facilities

    By Blogger Kaps, at 5:19 PM  

  • this looks a bit like all russian medical degrees that were en vogue in mid to late 90s. Dunno if ppl are still keen to get one of those now.

    By Blogger puddlefrog, at 7:07 PM  

  • its the pursuit of good education tat takes these ppl, australian univs charge indian students 7 times the amount they charge their nationals, likewise in uk, the idea is that indians will crozz subsidise their students, and 4 univs that cant fill seats indians r a ready market,
    4get china there are a lot of bad univs in australia, uk, usa which woo indian students!! there has to be some yardstick for measuring the quality of univs and comparing them!!

    By Blogger ada-paavi!!!!, at 9:41 PM  

  • Kaps...here's an excellent editorial on the recent vexed issues of the entrance exams being abolished and the aftermath. YOu might find it relevant reading:
    http://www.hindu.com/2005/06/29/stories/2005062903611000.htm

    By Anonymous Ravi, at 11:24 PM  

  • Subject previously posted by the insightful Phoenix Muses.

    By Blogger YardBoy, at 9:06 AM  

  • @Puddlefrog,
    The russian medical degrees are still popular

    @Srivatsan,
    You are right. There are some below par institutions in these countries and students need to be careful before choosing them.

    @Ravi,
    Thanks for the article. will take a look.

    @Yardboy,
    Thanks for the pointer.

    By Blogger Kaps, at 11:36 AM  

  • Quality of education may be in question but not the different kinds of cases that the students get to attend. Because 'China' is the birth place of most of the diseases. Moreover it is the degree behind the name that matters the most for most of them. So they may pursue such professional degrees in any land that they can afford to.

    By Blogger வெங்கி / Venki, at 2:24 PM  

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